This is a video of a 1 megawatt Fuel Cell Power Plant at California State University, Northridge, in Los Angeles, CA. The power plant has a reformer that separates hydrogen from natural gas and then feeds the hydrogen into a fuel cell, generating electricity. The plant also recovers the heat generated and uses it for domestic heating on campus. In the future, some of the carbon emitted will be sequestered in a sub-tropical rainforest that is under construction.
While at present this power plant still uses fossil fuels (the natural gas is needed in order to extract the hydrogen from it), in the future the hydrogen will be generated either from landfill gas, or else it will be electrolyzed using wind, solar, geothermal, wave or hydroelectric energy. What is most important and exciting about this plant is the fact that it is using fuel cells–touted to be the future of electricity generation–today, and they are working seamlessly on a large scale.
For more information, go to andyposner.org/videofuelcell
It’s a wonder if your avg “home-owner” even knows what he’s buying into? wait a minute. don’t answer that.
Steam reforming
He mentioned that heat, and g, if he just dumped some water in there, it may just prove to be some interesting results:
Commercial bulk hydrogen is usually produced by the steam reforming of natural gas. At high temperatures (700–1100 °C), steam (H2O) reacts with methane (CH4) to yield syngas.
CH4 + H2O → CO + 3 H2 – 191.7 kJ/mol
I’m not sure what temp H20 turns to HH O but I believe I’ve heard about 800..
Y its many years from now? We need better ways of getting lots of Hydrogen.Y? 99% of hydrogen we get today produce Co2.So whats the point.There looking for ways to produce Hydrogen with out free up Co2.
There is no such thing as free energy. You can make hydrogen from water – but that electricity needs to come from somewhere. You can’t produce hydrogen with electricity to use to make electricity. Actually, you can, but only at 40% efficiency, which is a complete waste and pointless.
no good. we want to get away from fossel fuels not embrace it.
Chernobyl could never happen on a Western reactor. ? you kidding andyplace. you think god owns the nuclear power plants in the west:)/ accidents are not limited to communist countries. It’s wild that these guys could make such use of hydrogen but cannot plice the tape or narrate it outside the plant without the racket. ;PLEASE give us some credit.
In order to use fuel cells, you must first aquire Hydrogen. They specified using landfill gas and electrolisis as future sources of hydrogen. I would advocate using landfill gas as using electrolisis would require more energy than you would get out of it, energy that could be put directly into the power grid.
The people that control the energy market need a system that allows them to CHARGE people for energy (be that oil, electricity, gas, solar, wind, tidal, or any other generating process). We CAN produce H from water. This process could be next-to-free to everyone. The PROBLEM in a capitalist system is that this IS FREE(or nearly). WE CAN GET THIS ENERGY FOR FREE!!!!!!! JESUS CHRIST THIS IS DRIVING ME MAD.
the system of capitalism is only 150yr old and look how it’s fucked EARTH
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They aready have a source for hydrogen. They have a fuel reformer that takes in natural gas and strips off the hydrogen to use as fuel.
the enegy produced could be used to create any of the carrying mediums such as hydrogen from electrolysis, hydrocarbons from hydrogenation of coal under the old German patent, or the use of electric motors.
I found at the time that this type of hydro electric generation would be sufficient to power the continental “U S” in in its entirety with the erection of 50 such unit strategically located around the seaboard of the country.
continued, the system is faultless and the cost per kilowatt is extremely low when you consider the cost of the original capital versus the power generated from the system.
My calculation at the time was such that every city bordering the ocean say like New york, would be served by a series of barges that would only occupy 50 acres of the ocean in some circumspect but well studied area.
The numbers are staggering but heap oil made the whole idea useless at the time.
My favorite is Hydro electric because you get to use 18th century technology to generated electricity with the new materials available. I put together a system in 1964 while at Hardwicke Chemical co. The system comprised of a series of barges that would be installed into towers erected in the ocean that would utilize the wave motion to power hydrolic pumps that would turn turbines that would produce electricity…..
i have read all the mail concerning this issue of producing Hydrogen from water through electrolysis. It is evident that you need a whole lot of electric enegy to get hydrogen. electricity is not cheap and will be more and more expensive in the future.
We will need more power generated by either wind,direct photocell and hydro electric.
nice and politicaly correct… hydrogen…made from gaz!
NO NO NO, use the sewage water to make your hydrogen and stop the hypocrisis…
Chernobyl could never happen on a Western reactor.
buddy how much energy in KWh does it produce in the whole year???
It takes electricity to crack water.
Just crack the water and you have HOH (brown gas)for fuel and it burns clean. Why Nuclear? Which is more dangerous to operate and which one that produce no waste?
nuclear would be good if there wasnt the minor problem of a massively toxic waste and the posability of another Chernobyl… hydrogen is the answer, along with solar and wind and such
The people that propose the solution are the problem. Nuclear is the answer. It alway’s has been. Because of the opposition we have not built any new plants and Coal is the most nasty
thing. To bad 50% of power comes from coal.
This plant is highly un practical until u find a efficient way to produce pure hydrogen. however, i m impressed by the size of the powerplant.
suggestion: why know use the 750degree exhaust to fire up another generator to produce even more electricity.
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NET NET NET usable 175 KWH in Heating Energy
and
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which ups thw kw NET comparrison significantly vs r410 a and other refrigerant cooling
Fla Heat Pump job in icf WALLS,
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now
HYDRO-TEMP COM de-centralized pumping…
YOU CAN STUDY HOW WE ARE DOWN TO ~8KWH
OR 27 mbH OER SQ FT PER SCHOOL YEAR
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HORIZONTALLY:
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OVER 600MBh at 20-25 dF days and pre cools too! call your driller !
what in the hell are talking about!(bullshit?)
youmean Bushit lol
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