that comment was for Philldapill85, by the way. Just in case there is any doubt.
BlackIronBearsays:
Wow…the depth of your ignorance truly knows no bounds. Tell you what…why dont YOU go get a degree instead of whining like a puppy locked in the garage…until then…;)
tinkertom2118says:
yeh! nice
Philldapill85says:
I agree that it is stupid to act as if humanity knows everything about the physical world. However, if you are trying to draw upon that and use it to show that maybe this whole resonance thing DOES have some merit, then show it, I urge you.
I don’t like the whole resonance idea about splitting water because simply put, the resonating nature of the makeshift capacitor and inductor have NOTHING to do with the water and viseversa. Yes, the water acts as a crappy dielectric but what I said holds.
sickpigrecordssays:
i am doing a degree next year i am on a levels at the moment and all seems to be going well but it is most stupid to think we know it all or even a fraction about what there is to know about energy and energy extaction as well as physics and chemistry the laws are just theorys just very good ones and could have some details wrong einstine wasnt shure when it came to a few things like zero point energy he just needed more time. we have the quantum world to play with now an little is known fact
Philldapill85says:
“dude”… I’m not one to bash on hydrogen production – it’s clean and abundant. The only problem is the energy source needed to make it. The hydrogen is simply the fuel – a carrier for energy. It’s not the energy source. Playing around in your garage trying to make some silly “resonant” circuit out of this stuff is a total waste of time. I wish people that are interested in this sort of thing would go to school, get a degree, and provide some REAL help to solving the energy problem. Until then..
Philldapill85says:
Titanium is almost as bad as plain iron. It oxidizes very quickly and becomes unuseable very fast. Try bronze or brass flashing. The stuff isn’t toxic and lasts a good bit of time.
Philldapill85says:
Exactly my point. The discharge curve is non-linear… a exponential function of e. I don’t know what kind of education you have, but basically, it’s a simple RC constant. Simply put, the voltage at any given time(t), will be V(t) = V(initial) / e^(t/RC) as the capacitor discharges. It’s a non-linear curve. That’s basic electricity theory. If you know some algebra, you can solve for RC.
Do an expirement and measure the initial voltage, and measure the voltage again at specific time intervals.
ZeroFossilFuelsays:
Trouble is the discharge curve is not linear. There is an avalanche breakdown of the water dielectric that occurs around 2v.
Philldapill85says:
Here is an easy way to measure capacitance… Apply a voltage to the “capacitor”. Read the voltage on the cap, then remove the voltage source. What happens to the voltage? It should slowly decrease for a REAL capacitor. A good cap will hold it’s charge for a LONG time. If you put a parallel resistor across the terminals, the voltage will drop as a function of Euler’s number, “e”. If you want to know the capacitance, you can solve for it by measuring the time it takes to reduce by half.
Philldapill85says:
Fool. The reason the resistance changes in the beginning, is because when measuring resistance, the meter is applying a small voltage. This voltage produces a small current, which causes chemical changes on the plates. The chemical changes make the reading increase, then when you reverse, you get the opposite effect. Go to school. Learn some real stuff about it and then tinker in your garage.
ZeroFossilFuelsays:
Good point. If not convert, at least stabalize for safe disposal.
sickpigrecordssays:
and there may also be a way of using a catalist to change it to somthin non carcinogenic but then again chared food is supposed to be a carcinogen if i get cancer or my liver packs up i will be blaming it on my rampant lifestyle
sickpigrecordssays:
dude it dosent matter what way u dress it up water beats oil and if hexavalient chromium is the problem from the stainless steal just use another metal .come on … do u think before u post or what and FYI i have drank the resulting fluid didnt get sick stupid yes taste wired yes very bad stuff i would say not. try huffing on some straight exhaust gas & see how u do .better yet drink alittle petrol and tell me u feel ok if you are worried about the carcinagenic effects its mainly from inhalation
heartwind321says:
You keep talking about “Being in Resonance”
How are you determining-producing “Resonance” By Magic? By Looking at the Plates… Yup they look the same…
All of these numbers and calculations are great…. except where/how does one start to have a repeatable experiment?? Lots of folks claiming they have done things… where though does one start to reproduce these “miracles of water” by making Resonant SS plates Has anyone addressed that?
ZeroFossilFuelsays:
You raise a valid concern. 304 is the worst, 316L better, nitronic 50 or 60 best. I always bring my waste solutions to hazmat collections. A vid on safe handling is probably in order.
We are looking at titanium as an alternative but it’s very expensive. Can you suggest a cost effective alternative?
gozarca2says:
When you use stainless steel, you produce hydrogen gas (H2), oxygen gas (O2) and HEXAVALIENT CHROMIUM (aka Erin Brokavich’s claim to fame). This stuff is a VERY nasty heavy toxic metal. 1ppm in drinking water is unsafe. I’m concerned people are building these things and dumping the waste down the drain, saying they “beat big oil and big oil is conspiring to keep this solution quiet”.
VERY BAD STUFF! They don’t put these things in cars for a reason.
GBS1043says:
sorry, six liters per minute, at what pressure x1 att ?
GBS1043says:
four liters per minute at what pressure ?
GBS1043says:
use a bridge
RobC1999says:
Amazing results! You may want to put together an RC circuit or timing circuit to measure the capacitance without the meter to verify.
I look forward to catching up on the rest of your videos!
KnightChatXsays:
Good point, metal isn’t cross scored either.
GBS1043says:
The water has been contaminated by the marine goop and the cable ties, oil from your hands, etc…What did the cell measure before you put it into the water? Was the SS completely decontaminated before you started?
Again, what is the free air cap>?
xxxxx xxx xxx in xx field xxxxxxxx with xx xxx That is the way to go
TeslaLightsays:
Nope, a Fourier analysis would be good enough for me.
I am making 6 liters per minute on 159 watts with straight DC so I know the results are accurate. Is that good enough for you? 🙂
KnightChatXsays:
Also, the motion of the particles wired a certain way across generates energy. An electrical spark. A side project not HHO gen related describes it a bit, pass drops of water through conductive small cans and catch water in larger can’s underneath, stack small on top, have 2 water channels, connect wires from can A to Can D and Can B to Can C, and with electrode a spark can be seen ever so often.
that comment was for Philldapill85, by the way. Just in case there is any doubt.
Wow…the depth of your ignorance truly knows no bounds. Tell you what…why dont YOU go get a degree instead of whining like a puppy locked in the garage…until then…;)
yeh! nice
I agree that it is stupid to act as if humanity knows everything about the physical world. However, if you are trying to draw upon that and use it to show that maybe this whole resonance thing DOES have some merit, then show it, I urge you.
I don’t like the whole resonance idea about splitting water because simply put, the resonating nature of the makeshift capacitor and inductor have NOTHING to do with the water and viseversa. Yes, the water acts as a crappy dielectric but what I said holds.
i am doing a degree next year i am on a levels at the moment and all seems to be going well but it is most stupid to think we know it all or even a fraction about what there is to know about energy and energy extaction as well as physics and chemistry the laws are just theorys just very good ones and could have some details wrong einstine wasnt shure when it came to a few things like zero point energy he just needed more time. we have the quantum world to play with now an little is known fact
“dude”… I’m not one to bash on hydrogen production – it’s clean and abundant. The only problem is the energy source needed to make it. The hydrogen is simply the fuel – a carrier for energy. It’s not the energy source. Playing around in your garage trying to make some silly “resonant” circuit out of this stuff is a total waste of time. I wish people that are interested in this sort of thing would go to school, get a degree, and provide some REAL help to solving the energy problem. Until then..
Titanium is almost as bad as plain iron. It oxidizes very quickly and becomes unuseable very fast. Try bronze or brass flashing. The stuff isn’t toxic and lasts a good bit of time.
Exactly my point. The discharge curve is non-linear… a exponential function of e. I don’t know what kind of education you have, but basically, it’s a simple RC constant. Simply put, the voltage at any given time(t), will be V(t) = V(initial) / e^(t/RC) as the capacitor discharges. It’s a non-linear curve. That’s basic electricity theory. If you know some algebra, you can solve for RC.
Do an expirement and measure the initial voltage, and measure the voltage again at specific time intervals.
Trouble is the discharge curve is not linear. There is an avalanche breakdown of the water dielectric that occurs around 2v.
Here is an easy way to measure capacitance… Apply a voltage to the “capacitor”. Read the voltage on the cap, then remove the voltage source. What happens to the voltage? It should slowly decrease for a REAL capacitor. A good cap will hold it’s charge for a LONG time. If you put a parallel resistor across the terminals, the voltage will drop as a function of Euler’s number, “e”. If you want to know the capacitance, you can solve for it by measuring the time it takes to reduce by half.
Fool. The reason the resistance changes in the beginning, is because when measuring resistance, the meter is applying a small voltage. This voltage produces a small current, which causes chemical changes on the plates. The chemical changes make the reading increase, then when you reverse, you get the opposite effect. Go to school. Learn some real stuff about it and then tinker in your garage.
Good point. If not convert, at least stabalize for safe disposal.
and there may also be a way of using a catalist to change it to somthin non carcinogenic but then again chared food is supposed to be a carcinogen if i get cancer or my liver packs up i will be blaming it on my rampant lifestyle
dude it dosent matter what way u dress it up water beats oil and if hexavalient chromium is the problem from the stainless steal just use another metal .come on … do u think before u post or what and FYI i have drank the resulting fluid didnt get sick stupid yes taste wired yes very bad stuff i would say not. try huffing on some straight exhaust gas & see how u do .better yet drink alittle petrol and tell me u feel ok if you are worried about the carcinagenic effects its mainly from inhalation
You keep talking about “Being in Resonance”
How are you determining-producing “Resonance” By Magic? By Looking at the Plates… Yup they look the same…
All of these numbers and calculations are great…. except where/how does one start to have a repeatable experiment?? Lots of folks claiming they have done things… where though does one start to reproduce these “miracles of water” by making Resonant SS plates Has anyone addressed that?
You raise a valid concern. 304 is the worst, 316L better, nitronic 50 or 60 best. I always bring my waste solutions to hazmat collections. A vid on safe handling is probably in order.
We are looking at titanium as an alternative but it’s very expensive. Can you suggest a cost effective alternative?
When you use stainless steel, you produce hydrogen gas (H2), oxygen gas (O2) and HEXAVALIENT CHROMIUM (aka Erin Brokavich’s claim to fame). This stuff is a VERY nasty heavy toxic metal. 1ppm in drinking water is unsafe. I’m concerned people are building these things and dumping the waste down the drain, saying they “beat big oil and big oil is conspiring to keep this solution quiet”.
VERY BAD STUFF! They don’t put these things in cars for a reason.
sorry, six liters per minute, at what pressure x1 att ?
four liters per minute at what pressure ?
use a bridge
Amazing results! You may want to put together an RC circuit or timing circuit to measure the capacitance without the meter to verify.
I look forward to catching up on the rest of your videos!
Good point, metal isn’t cross scored either.
The water has been contaminated by the marine goop and the cable ties, oil from your hands, etc…What did the cell measure before you put it into the water? Was the SS completely decontaminated before you started?
Again, what is the free air cap>?
xxxxx xxx xxx in xx field xxxxxxxx with xx xxx That is the way to go
Nope, a Fourier analysis would be good enough for me.
I am making 6 liters per minute on 159 watts with straight DC so I know the results are accurate. Is that good enough for you? 🙂
Also, the motion of the particles wired a certain way across generates energy. An electrical spark. A side project not HHO gen related describes it a bit, pass drops of water through conductive small cans and catch water in larger can’s underneath, stack small on top, have 2 water channels, connect wires from can A to Can D and Can B to Can C, and with electrode a spark can be seen ever so often.
I am not sure that I can completely understand your comments. Would you be so kind as to expand on your reasoning a little more before I comment.