25 thoughts on “Re: hydrogen fuel cell

  1. ceriman says:

    you can:
    1. compress to 10,000 psi, each gallon giving 1/5 the energy of 1 gallon of gasoline.
    2. chill to ultracold -420 F. Each gallon of liquid H2 has 1/4 the energy of a gallon of gasoline.
    3. Attach those atoms to long chains of carbon atoms, 8 carbon chains holding 18 hydrogen atoms is optimum, and that IS gasoline.

  2. ceriman says:

    Requiring platinum and special membranes, H2 fuelcells for cars cost a half million dollars each, that’s why those cars aren’t available for sale. That’s also why Ballard dropped out of the automotive fuelcell market – a handful of research vehicles wasn’t enough to keep the business going.

  3. Ecoi1 says:

    Why forget hydrogen?… It has great potential. Granted, electric does too, but we should keep our options open for now. Plus, a hybrid still uses gas, which won’t be able to last forever. Oh well, the video itself is very neat.

  4. Ecoi1 says:

    Some people feel electricity is better. I know they are working on a quick recharge method. If they can do it, then I might like electric better. But… depending on what’s in the battery… I agree tho, we should try and convert. I mean, why not start, if it’s a slow, but gradual one? I’d rather deal with it now, than have a crisis to deal with! (We have enough petrol to last a while – why not use that time to find an alternative?) At least we should start replacing our power stations

  5. Ecoi1 says:

    One main reason is money. Another reason is our power stations would have to be cleaner to make this work entirely emission free. That’d take a lot of replacing. (Just in case you don’t know…) The hydrogen is obtained through a process called electrolysis. Basically you get water and run electricity through it. For each water molecule, you will get 2 hydrogen atoms, and an oxygen atom. So you have to use electricity to later use it. It’s basically convenient to refuel =).

  6. grahammoorhead says:

    So tell me, why are we not using these Fuel Cell engines to drive and fly. Why not work on making the most efficient modes of transport instead of all this mouth flapping about Carbon Footprints and bickering over petrol and oil? Hydrogen is going to be here ALOT longer than petrol and oil. So why can’t we cut to the chase?

  7. JTS11d6 says:

    I have a question, how do you condense the hydrogen gas to a point where it will not take up too much space in the “fuel tank” When you pump it into the car, how is it compressed? And is liquid hydrogen possible to use in a fuel cell?

  8. Scoti45 says:

    Check out Quantum fuel systems on the Nasdaq.
    I invested in them they are the way of the future they build hydrogen and plug ins!

  9. sofarsogood9 says:

    Factories creat a lot of hydrogen and they dumps out as air or in lakes, it’s kind of good for the enviroment to use hydrogen. Clean air, anyone?

  10. sofarsogood9 says:

    lol, it takes like 2 bucks to refill and you can just bring a tank with you incase it runs out of air.

  11. sirmikeydotcom says:

    Not much point in converting hho to electricity. Compressed air vehicles have 93 mile range, refills in seconds. Tweeked, could probably double the highway range.
    /watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4

  12. daveadam27 says:

    I see things this way in the next 2 decades:America will finally wake up and institute another branch of the armed forces, The Energy Force. Money formerly spent on a senseless war for oil is now used to build wind farms,solar arrays,electric and hydrogen cell cars,wave farms,and other alternative energy sources.
    Students graduating from High School can now go into the Energy Force with a structure similar to traditional military with schools, housing, various service areas (trades)

  13. beancube2008 says:

    Please don’t let someone profit from existing technology again. It belongs to everyone now-a-day, public service sectors have to do the obligation to deploy the implementation to benefit everybody with our tax money, no to further tax us from it.

  14. 1stBorracho says:

    No, water is far from all you need. It is not cheap to convert the water to hydrogen. That is what I am trying to find out (how much in the conversion). Also I hear in passing that washing of the rings starts to happen as well. Water in the oil of a engine that spins up to 5500 RPM hmmmm? That would stink to have a bad engine in under 10K miles. Would that also mean that you would get coking of the rings as well? I sure hope I am wrong.

  15. TheFuelSolution says:

    It would be very cheap to convert a car into a Hydrogen/Fuel Hybrid. To make a gallon of hydrogen would only use a cup of water. If your interested in a cheap conversion kit for your vehicle check out my Youtube channel TheFuelSolution.

  16. 1stBorracho says:

    Why do they have to convert it to electricity? If you can convert a combustion engine to run on propane gas why not use a similar system to make the engine run on hydrogen? We don’t need perfect, we need something now! A small cheap conversion kit that will work on the cars that we have on the road already. A car that has to be made to go into production vs a conversion kit????? I must be missing something. Also what would it cost for a person to make a gal of hydrogen?

  17. lee5537 says:

    N.A.S.A did not invent the fuel cell, the fuelcell was invented at about the same time as the combustion engine was.But had they gone with the fuelcell instead of the combustion engine it would have been a differant story today..

  18. Tomei1 says:

    Use Stan’s Invention On Your Own Car!
    Just Replace the dot with .

    hydrogenfuelcelldotweeblydotcom

    This works I use it on BOTH my cars and i’m not paying a dime for gas. 100% LEGAL too!

  19. ericbellend says:

    i see that ballard, who make fuel cells, show a 1.5kW cell requires a flow of 19 litres of hydrogen per minute. that’s a lot of hydrogen for a 30kW car! We’re probably not going to get too much technological help from portugal then authmaax, i can see you ponder these questions often, thankyou for such an enlightened thought provoking input.

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