Hydrogen Fuel Cell – Design Characteristics for Heavier Amps

Just going over a HHO-Cell design for coupling the anode and cathode of the electrodes in more rugged redundant means. With the connections on 1/4-20 3″ bolts. Using Lowes style wall plates for the HHO Cell, they appear to have a straighter surface than the stamped Home Depot style plates.

Regards, sirHOAX

25 thoughts on “Hydrogen Fuel Cell – Design Characteristics for Heavier Amps

  1. JimbowT says:

    Two questions:
    1) I don’t understand how the bolts are grabbing onto and connecting the plates. Can you add a short segment on the way the bolt grabs the bent tabs ?
    2) Why are you aiming for 5 volts ?

  2. TheMrWho1 says:

    I think some people are trying this. I think you would have a bad problem with inconsistent line pressure (since gasses compress much easier than liquids). The fuel pump would be working against the gas going in-line, and you would have to inject the “HHO” gas with something giving constant pressure. I would prefer to look into direct port injecting separately from the petro fuel.

  3. masmagalingako says:

    When you install this type of electrolysis system in your car, doesn’t this system add a load to the alternator/engine then in the end uses up whatever power is produced from the combustion of the hho that was produced and maybe uses up additional gas because this kind of system is less than 100% efficient.

    My second question would be the savings in gas mileage claimed by the people who installed the hho generator in their vehicles, is only achieved because of the EFIE or adjustments on ECU.?

  4. 0utworlder says:

    I’m going to ask this question on a couple different places:
    Why is noone sending the gas through the furl line

  5. underverser says:

    You seems to have used water from the supply.. You’d better use deminneralised water for your experiments.. At the time you are creating large ammount’s of chemical waste… And degenerates the actual working factor of your experiment..

  6. RetiredAFGuy says:

    Well tonight I fired up my first WFC off a 10 amp 12v charger. Made of the Cooper plates at Lowes that have the sharper corners than the others at Home Depot but a combination of the 2 plates then air space here but the stacked system you used in your dual 4 system. I only used a pinch of baking soda in tap water and the plates were 3/4″ out of the water using a pyrex cupp for first test. Got plenty and my wife now says she is deaf in her right ear from lighting a few bubbles on the surface.

  7. RetiredAFGuy says:

    Hoax have you tried this plate system with a PWM yet? Wondering if production was helped or hindered with the PWM added. I’m going to do an intial direct connect for testing then add a PWM but curious if any differences good or bad with the PWM rather than battery connected.

  8. RetiredAFGuy says:

    Well today I found everything I needed in the specialty bins in the local Lowes – doing a very similar system to this sometime soon as a test then into a containment cell and then onto the vehicle. Will be using direct DC first then building a PWM (with coil) to trim it out and decrease the current use.

  9. CLICKHERE2006 says:

    HI My name is josh cav and are trying to all so form a fuel cell for my car so it runs soly on hho gass i have been useing the tube design but im inpressed with your model with flat plates have you tryed experementing with trying to creat a voltage intensifier circuit as from my understanding if you trade amps for volts the more volts the better production of gass this is the secret to Smeyer tube cell. but i would be very interested to see your total gass production at the end of your project.

  10. onecraftydude says:

    Nice job hoax. I made a series with those plates. It worked well at 120vdc with close spacing. I couldn’t get a dc to ac inverter to run it though so i gave up with that design and made about 10 others with the plates. I don’t have one in your configuration though, thanx for the idea. Check out my “SIXPACK” made with some of my plates. Keep up the good work.

  11. RetiredAFGuy says:

    Any ideas on where to get the plastic washers, bolts and nuts he used to attach and space the plates? Has anyone tried a plate set as big as double box wall plate, compared to the single box wall plate size? If so is it better to have say a 4×4 plate than a 2×4 plate (whether using wall plates or cut plate sheet SS plates)?

  12. 0RandomHero says:

    hey keveeee2000 would you be able to message me explain what process you used to seperate the o2 and h2?

  13. aflacduky says:

    very good ? yes i did in a test cell i didnt get any more production per current but there was some funny results i got more o2 and that didnt make any reason to me however i wasnt really doing a full test cheers!

  14. Gyva02 says:

    Has anybody tried to put stailess steel flour dust (fine filings) into the water to see if this helps with production, or would they be attracted to the plates and cause a short? Just thought I’d throw the idea out there.

  15. venomousbird says:

    It may interest people to know that from my research, the geothermal energy in California alone could power the entire United States. There are volcanically active areas all over the world that could be used for massive energy production. Liquid Hydrogen can be piped, or moved on ships. It would be non-polluting if it leaked. No need to endanger crew, the ships could be controlled remotely.

  16. 1alien2 says:

    Galvanized steel isn’t very good for this, Stainless Steel is the best. You don’t have to use wallplates, you can use plate stainless. The video I have posted is using wallplates from Lowe’s but I made another one from plate that I cut to size using a plasma cutter.

    Use distilled water with either NaOH or KOH, you won’t have the brown crud in the bottom.

  17. ezsteve91 says:

    I’m trying to make one of these but it’s proving to be quite difficult to get hold of these stainless steel wall plates in the UK. Does anyone know anywhere I can get them and whether it’s possible to use galvanized steel? Thanks.

  18. jaxjoker08 says:

    Hi,

    The wall plate covers from Lowe’s that I am seeing are Brushed Satin Finish…is this what you are using? Does it affect gas production?

  19. Keveeee2000 says:

    I was playing around with this stuff in the early ’90’s. We made a system that would separate the H2 and Oxygen. We would use the H2 to fill balloons and watch them float around. Pretty neat stuff. I would like to get back into messing with it like you are if I ever have time to do some tinkering again.
    THANKS FOR SHARING THIS!

  20. gagekko says:

    Problem with tap water is you get that red/orange crud everywhere… Try letting the water sit out a day or two prior and it should go down a bit as the crude is usually caused by the chlorine.

  21. hetgow says:

    good stuff – my brother just picked up some stainless steel plates. Gonna get them cut & make a big cell as well. Keep up the good work

  22. sirHOAX says:

    In a series hho-cell yes the amperage will go down. This is not a true series cell. More of a series/parallel arrangement.

    Regards, sirHOAX

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